Monday, November 19, 2012

WWDB And Marriage?

So many Amway apologists talk about changes, and that critics are outdated, yet we keep seeing exmples of this stuff where it's painfully apparent that WWDB leaders are still teaching things like this. I will edit and add on more testimonies about WWDB saving marriages. http://amwayblog.com/brad-wolgamott-blog/ Dreambuilder for life says: May 6, 2010 at 1:23 pm For all of you who are being so critical, not once have I ever heard a diamond in Worldwide Dreambuilders claim to be super human or better than anyone else. In fact it is quite the opposite. Worldwide diamonds are constantly saying that they are nothing special, human just like the rest of us. If you put people up on a pedestal you Will be let down because no matter how hard we try, people are not perfect. And here is a nice fact for you; within this organization that many of you are being so critical of, the divorce rate is less than 1% compared to our national rate the ranges anywhere from 60% all the way up to the low 80’s. Get your facts people and quit being so judgemental of other people! I am sure you are not perfect either! Another WWDB IBO statement: http://expeditionoftruths.com/2010/03/22/calgary-regional-rally-reflections/ I’m SICK and tired of all the divorces out there, all the negativity out there, so what’s so wrong about re-educating myself with positive energy where people have AWESOME marriages?? By the way, the divorce rate in the normal job world is over 60%, the divorce rate in our line of business is about 2%. Joe's commentary: I doubt these IBOs are making this up. They are being taught this crap by WWDB leaders, apparently.

9 comments:

  1. Why have you a blog focussed on MLM and AMWAY bashing, do you have so much time on your hands?
    The folks in the network have the same brain as anyone else, they pay their money and make their choices, why do yo care? Products from AMWAY are good and are more expensive than the supermarkets that heavily discount to keep you coming back. Anyone who believes that they can make $100,000 pa without effort is dreaming. I listen to mainstream media brainwashing us all to sit quiet watch TV and pay taxes, how does MLM differ and if you are good at the strategies taught then you may succeed, but anyone who thought that there is not a price to pay was dreaming and still is, you are born you pay taxes then die, that's it. What happens in the middle is one's choice leave them to it. If you are "cool" Joe then chill out brother.

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  2. I don't know how the hell your "4000 PV business with Eagle parameters" wasn't profitable. I run a 2500 PV business shy of Eagle and pull in over $1500.00 a month.

    I have no idea how you didn't make any profit unless you're lying about your former business.

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  3. Because I followed my upline's advice and spent tons on extra tools.

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    1. I only spend $40 a month on tools. I have no idea how you spent that much money. I am fully equipped and 100% core. I feel like you are blaming your upline for your bad financial decisions. Upline only gives advice that worked for them, you have free will, if it was out of your budget then you shouldn't have been spending it.
      Earlier you asked someone if they were in this business for money or to become a better person. I am with WWDB because I want to grow as a person, the decision to launch after I received my offer was 150% the best decision I have ever made in my life. I was headed toward a bright future as it was but I saw a way to grow myself at the same as being successful. Another part of me believes you were just in this for the money. WWDB is about growth as a person, you clearly missed that part and that's probably why you weren't success plus in quitting you don't seem to have taken the time to problem solve on how to turn your business into what you wanted. If you were just after money then your right WWDB isn't for you. Its not something for nothing.
      I feel like after reading some of your blogs that you missed the basic ideas of the whole process. WWDB wants to create leaders who are self confident and believe in themselves. If you were running as eagle I would have hoped that you may have learned something. But as you continue to spread negative about something you gave up on. If you were having problems with your upline you should have communiKated. Told them your concerns. Your upline is supposed to help you. You were following them blindly from what you have said.
      Anyway, Those are my thoughts.

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    2. If you spend only $40 a month on tools, you are not CORE and you are not teachable based on WWDB teaching. Standing order and KATE is over $40 a month already. Not counting book of the month, functions, open meetings, etc.

      Funny, I felt like you did when I was with WWDB. I saw through the scam a bit later in my Amway career.

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  4. I am posting anonymously for safety reasons.

    Let me tell you a story about my "successful" Amway marriage.
    Was in WWDB. Upline Diamond: Puryear (seriously)

    Husband (now ex-) and I were core all the way. Drank the koolaid, ate the food bars, no TV, only listened to tapes and read books. Attended all the functions. Major functions were our "vacations" and "dates." In public, we were Mr. and Mrs. Amway. In private, he was physically abusive. I finally got a chance to leave.

    Upline sponsors, Platinums and Emeralds called me, yelling at me, telling me that it was "unbiblical" to leave my husband. Guess it was okay for him to do what he was doing?

    I left and never looked back. It was tough to deprogram after the WWDB brainwashing.

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    1. Hi anonymous. Thanks for commenting. If you would like to to leave more details, (anonymously), I could make it into a blog post and it might help others in the future.

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  5. Thanks for inviting me to share more of my story.

    My husband wasn't abusive when we met and were first married. That started happening maybe six months after we were married.

    He was already in Amway when we met, but he wasn't very active. After we got married, he started to get more active in "the business."

    I didn't know much about Amway when I met him. I met his upline sponsors when we got engaged and I thought they were just good friends. After we were married, I went to a rally and was struck by how the wives seemed to be so supportive. Then I heard the Emerald wife speak, and all she did was edify her husband or go on to "us gals" that we needed to let go of any negativity. As I went to more functions, I heard the wives tell "us gals" to be submissive - that we were wrong for having any needs or requests. It's one of the kids' birthday or your birthday and there's a function? Guess which one takes priority. You can celebrate later when you're "Free," when you're a Diamond.

    I thought there would be some sales training. I went to an Artistry clinic - they taught us how to put on makeup and showed us some of the latest colors. But there was nothing about how to find customers, generate sales, or even have a makeup party. At one time, there was a tape by Bettyjean Brooks (wife of Jim Brooks, WWDB) about how to build a retail business. I ordered it, but never received it. She and Jim divorced. Jim stayed in WWDB and the tape suddenly became "unavailable."

    Husband really followed the "fake it 'til you make it" teaching. To everyone, he was Mr. Successful. After our child was born, I became a stay at home mother. He led everyone to believe that it was our Amway income that allowed me to stay home. We weren't even at 1500 PV. We never made any money. I kept my mouth shut and played the submissive/supportive wife role. Keeping the books, running call-in and pickup for our downline, and trying to peddle the products to "customers." He never tried to sell anything - that was the wife's job. WWDB taught that.

    It all came to a head when the police got involved because of the abuse. He had to move out of our house. He lied to everyone, saying that it was all really nothing and that the courts (and I) were blowing everything out of proportion. After going through counseling and therapy, it was clear to me (and to the therapist) that he was not being honest with any of us. I filed for divorce.

    It was then that the upline contacted me. Our sponsor (the wife), platinum and emerald each called me. It started out that they were "concerned" about me and wanted to counsel me. When I told them exactly what happened and why I was leaving, they told me that it was "unbiblical" for me to leave my husband. Yelling at me. Accusing me of negativity. They also said that there was no way he could have done those things, that they just couldn't believe it. I offered to let them see a copy of the police report. Nobody ever took me up on that offer.

    Now, I can't say that Amway taught him to be abusive, but I wholeheartedly believe they taught him to be a good liar and how to hide the truth and dodge questions. They did everything short of preach that the "little lady" stay at home, pregnant and in the kitchen. Wives on stage used to brag about how the couple drove a hundred miles and left their kids sleeping in the car while they went inside someone's house to show a plan.

    Freedom, indeed. More like servitude.

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