I was an ex-ibo DL in the G Duncan organization. Also, achieved DD aka Platinum, Q12, Ruby level for several years breaking dl directs. I can tell you all that upline Diamonds made majority of their $$ through books, tapes (CDs) and functions. The WWDB system is a farce and all their teachings of 6-4-2 and any of their latest spins on an antiquated system are hogwash.
In terms of “open” discussion with upline on your future in achieving Diamond level, that attitude was always “get to that level and then we’ll talk” – Even when achieving the Platinum level, upline will not disclose minimal info (need to know basis) to you regarding tape/cd/book breaks, etc. Know this limited info, you can use some deductive reasoning and deduce that upline will also get “more $$$ perks” wrt functions, etc.
The biggest issue I’ve always had with this “need to know bases” info only when you attain a level such as Platinum, and above, is how in the heck can one plan for one’s own long term for their future, retiring as a WWDB Diamond, or for that matter even at the Ruby level – we’ve all heard and seen how there were distributor’s (Ruby’s) such as Dean Kosage, Rod Jao that “retired” at these lower levels.
ANSWER? You can’t! Not without knowing what the parameters are and how to plan in advance. Upline would never answer my questions related to the long term parameters. The only reply I’d get from upline was “just keep doing what your doing, and you’ll go Diamond”. Well, coming from a successful financial background (I am no spring chicken), this regurgitated answer month after month, year after year, didnt cut it for me.
The reality is this: They get you in, you build a level of business that’s solid or close to it – ie. Platinum level, and then if you decide that you don’t like what they teach or how the WWDB program works, your upline will work around you and literally “dismember” your business so that they can inherit all YOUR HARD WORK and leave you in the dust.
How do I know this?
I spoken to many ex-platinum IBOs I’ve gotten to know and built friendships with, locally, in Washington State and Calif. and the stories I’ve heard from them are all similar. Upline Diamond coming into attempt to convince them the “vital” importance of books, cds and functions (attend ALL functions) and if that did not work, then a more aggressive arm twisting through misinformation to the DL tactics would erupt. In some cases, upline Diamond literally comes in one-to-one and uses “subtle” words to push you aside.
So those defending the “system”, I have no anomosity against you personally. What you need to do is keep your eyes wide open and not “eyes wide open shut” like many platinums + did and still do.
Guaranteed, you get rid of the huge money making aspect of the books, cds and functions in these groups and your Diamond, even emeralds with be in the rough.
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Tuesday, May 17, 2011
WWDB Comment
No Dream says:
July 10, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Again, I cannot understand these guys. And those of you that were in “the business” or are in “the business” know what goes on. The bottom line, is that these guys know that Wolgamott was having the extra-marital affairs and still let him get up there and talk about his loving wife and how the business saves marriages, they knew that Greg Duncan was double minded and chasing multiple rabbits, yet they let him get up there and talk about how stupid people are who get loans to buy homes, they knew all of this stuff yet they did nothing about it. And what is the number one thing they talk about, integrity. Where is the integrity in that? They also do this and call themselves Christians? How can they look each other in the eye? And the downline platinums and above are so duped by this that they perpetuate lie after lie. You cannot defend this WWDB loyalists, how can you? I’m not against Amway per se, they have products, you by them at wholesale, and resell them, that is legit. But i am against the WWDB system 100%, they make most of their money off the tools and functions, and then pull this kind of stuff and then deny it. I would be embarassed if I was one of you. I would apologize to everyone you ever signed up for this business, save your integrity, admit when you are wrong. All of us people with “NO DREAM” just becouse we don’t think that building and Amway is the best way to do attain our dream?……..please, someone prove me wrong, you cannot defend what they (Ron and his cronies) allow to happen, and you cannot defend what those individuals are doing. How embarassing.
July 10, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Again, I cannot understand these guys. And those of you that were in “the business” or are in “the business” know what goes on. The bottom line, is that these guys know that Wolgamott was having the extra-marital affairs and still let him get up there and talk about his loving wife and how the business saves marriages, they knew that Greg Duncan was double minded and chasing multiple rabbits, yet they let him get up there and talk about how stupid people are who get loans to buy homes, they knew all of this stuff yet they did nothing about it. And what is the number one thing they talk about, integrity. Where is the integrity in that? They also do this and call themselves Christians? How can they look each other in the eye? And the downline platinums and above are so duped by this that they perpetuate lie after lie. You cannot defend this WWDB loyalists, how can you? I’m not against Amway per se, they have products, you by them at wholesale, and resell them, that is legit. But i am against the WWDB system 100%, they make most of their money off the tools and functions, and then pull this kind of stuff and then deny it. I would be embarassed if I was one of you. I would apologize to everyone you ever signed up for this business, save your integrity, admit when you are wrong. All of us people with “NO DREAM” just becouse we don’t think that building and Amway is the best way to do attain our dream?……..please, someone prove me wrong, you cannot defend what they (Ron and his cronies) allow to happen, and you cannot defend what those individuals are doing. How embarassing.
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